Sorry for the delayed podcast, folks! May was a hectic month here at Vigor. We moved offices and Joseph had surgery, so hence the delay. But delay no longer! Today we talk with Eli Altman, who has graciously been on our show before and needs no introduction, and Daniela Garza, Creative Partner at Anagrama. We ask Eli and Daniela about growing their practice in size and scale; how do you get ahead, when do you take the next step, and how do you even figure out what that next step is? Take a listen and hopefully you’ll find some gold nuggets of wisdom to use in growing your own practice.